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« on: June 09, 2011, 03:59:48 am »

In case you were wondering, that Terms of Service that you agreed to when you made your TW account is superceded by the TW Constitution. In case you have not be around for long, here is a link to the official TW Constitution:
http://www.toadwater.com/Guide/index.php/Constitution

This is straight from the administration.
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« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2011, 04:09:19 am »

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that if you're whining we collectively don't want to hear it.

However, is there a particular passage that you would like to point out and calmly discuss?
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« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2011, 11:55:19 am »

Please note that clatra does not speak for the administration and that her delusional claims do not represent reality.
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« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2011, 02:32:06 pm »

if you're whining we collectively
I did not whine.
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« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2011, 02:32:54 pm »

her delusional claims do not represent reality.
How am I delusional? Did I type something that was not true?
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« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2011, 02:36:02 pm »

How am I delusional? Did I type something that was not true?

Yes:

In case you were wondering, that Terms of Service that you agreed to when you made your TW account is superceded by the TW Constitution. In case you have not be around for long, here is a link to the official TW Constitution:
http://www.toadwater.com/Guide/index.php/Constitution

This is straight from the administration.

Pretty much every single thing you wrote there is outright wrong, and because it was explained to you in excruciating detail just yesterday, that means you're not just a moron, but a liar.
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« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2011, 02:38:30 pm »

Yes:

Pretty much every single thing you wrote there is outright wrong, and because it was explained to you in excruciating detail just yesterday, that means you're not just a moron, but a liar.
How am I a liar? If you just say "we told you yesterday" then no one on the forums will understand. Explain for the community.
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« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2011, 03:39:57 pm »

There's really no need to explain anything. Everyone already knows that the ToS trumps the Constitution. Including you. That's how you are a liar.
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« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2011, 04:20:41 pm »

I was confused which is different than being a liar.

In an attempt to fix this, this is what happened:

09:12   clatra   so if I posted "the ToS trumps the Constitution" that would be a true statement?
09:13   [twisti]   yes, for the 7th or so time today
09:13   clatra   thank you
09:13   [twisti]   are you mentally deficient lately ?
09:13   clatra   I am dyslexic, thanks
09:13   [twisti]   not sure that counts
09:14   clatra   it is a recognized mental disability
09:14   clatra   could you delete my thread?
09:15   [twisti]   like i said, i got better things to do than play into your trolling bullshit
09:16   clatra   I want to make an accurate statemtn
09:16   clatra   *statement
09:16   clatra   I swear
09:16   clatra   let me fix this
09:16   [twisti]   im sure you can figure out how to edit your own post
09:16   [twisti]   im off to the retirement home
09:17   clatra   But the thread will be too confusing, easier to just start fresh
09:18   clatra   you would prefer to confuse the community?
09:18   clatra   it really sucks when an admin says he is too busy to delete one thread
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« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2011, 05:14:21 pm »

[2011/06/09 17:12:02] <@[twisti]> no clatra
[2011/06/09 17:12:19] <@[twisti]> what really sucks is a player intentionally posting lies about a topic they extensively discussed the day before
[2011/06/09 17:12:34] <@[twisti]> and then pretending to be all surprised and innocent and expecting the admin to jump when they say jump
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« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2011, 05:20:09 pm »

What part of
I was confused
don't you understand?
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« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2011, 05:25:30 pm »

The part where I told you the exact opposite of what you posted like ten times yesterday.
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« Reply #12 on: June 09, 2011, 06:31:02 pm »

As you all probably know, I am new to this game and I like the game very much. It is great how different people are willing to help in game, but the way people are talking with each other seriously make me want to quit. Not only in this topic, but i read more posts written in the same way.

Calling eachother moron etc. using terms like bullshit. Man grow up!

If you don't agree about something, that's ok, but calling eachother names is not part of "a great community".

If this is part of the game, please let me know because i will quit today. I chose this game because it was a "no fighting" game, but i guess the fighting is not in game, but in real life about the game...

And if you want this game to be a success, make sure these fights stays away from the fora. If i would have read this the first day i joined, i would not even have taken the effort to download the client.

And (in case you do) don't start with "oh, but we know each other very long, we know the other person does not mean this offensive". It sure looks that way.
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« Reply #13 on: June 09, 2011, 06:43:10 pm »

And (in case you do) don't start with "oh, but we know each other very long, we know the other person does not mean this offensive". It sure looks that way.

I know, right? Twisti is such a fag.
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« Reply #14 on: June 09, 2011, 07:28:52 pm »

To attempt to clear this all up.

The ToS is the highest document, every account agrees to it when started.  As a choice by the the current Toadwater Administration, we have decided to let the government enforce the constitution over certain pieces of the ToS.  At anytime, this could change.  The ToS is still enforced for anything not mentioned in the constitution.

Currently, the Toadwater Administration yields decisions to the constitution in matters of AFK Macroing and multiclienting.  This decision is not a permanent choice, and is structured around the idea that players should be judged by their peers.

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« Reply #15 on: June 09, 2011, 07:37:09 pm »

As you all probably know, I am new to this game and I like the game very much. It is great how different people are willing to help in game, but the way people are talking with each other seriously make me want to quit. Not only in this topic, but i read more posts written in the same way.

Calling eachother moron etc. using terms like bullshit. Man grow up!

If you don't agree about something, that's ok, but calling eachother names is not part of "a great community".

If this is part of the game, please let me know because i will quit today. I chose this game because it was a "no fighting" game, but i guess the fighting is not in game, but in real life about the game...

And if you want this game to be a success, make sure these fights stays away from the fora. If i would have read this the first day i joined, i would not even have taken the effort to download the client.

And (in case you do) don't start with "oh, but we know each other very long, we know the other person does not mean this offensive". It sure looks that way.

Trust me, we mean it. This is one of the two forums that have very relaxed (read: no) rules of behaviour, and it is marked as such. Generally, Toadwater has always been a more mature game with language a bit harsher than the typical "kinder garden level" forums so prevalent on the internets. I'm also not sure what you mean about the no fighting game - a large part of Toadwaters gameplay dynamic stems from people fighting each other, stealing each others stuff, destroying each others bases, etc.

I know, right? Twisti is such a fag.

Haven't seen you in a while, old queer. How you been ?
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« Reply #16 on: June 09, 2011, 07:52:17 pm »

I'm also not sure what you mean about the no fighting game - a large part of Toadwaters gameplay dynamic stems from people fighting each other, stealing each others stuff, destroying each others bases, etc.

I call that competition (in this game). With fighting i mean hacking into each other, firing cannons at each other. Trying to kill each other.
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