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« on: May 10, 2008, 06:08:43 pm »

clatra has started chopping mrduck's fences unannounced.
(338-12-7) 1:65:21      clatra just cut their foot while chopping down mrduck's fence! (Time to Heal: 00:00:16)

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« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2008, 06:14:41 pm »

You forget that you announced a raid and, by announcing the raid, you are labeled a raider and open to be counter-raided for the period defined in the Constitution.
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« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2008, 06:16:13 pm »

but you forget who I announced raid on.
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« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2008, 06:17:42 pm »

Does it matter who your target was?
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« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2008, 06:18:10 pm »

nevermind, it appears the constitution says n o such thing
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« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2008, 06:21:24 pm »

What you believe is irrelevant. What the Constitution says and how the Viceroys interpret it are what is relevant.
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« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2008, 06:28:04 pm »

13 - If any player announces their intent to raid another player for whatever reasons by making a post in the tavern titled "PLANNED RAID: Targetname" 7 (seven) days ahead of his raid, the Government is not allowed to intervene as long as the player does not harm a different player. Only one raid may be planned by any one person in that way at any time, to avoid people simply spamming dozens of names. This expires after two months.
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« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2008, 06:32:09 pm »

13 - If any player announces their intent to raid another player for whatever reasons by making a post in the tavern titled "PLANNED RAID: Targetname" 7 (seven) days ahead of his raid, the Government is not allowed to intervene as long as the player does not harm a different player. Only one raid may be planned by any one person in that way at any time, to avoid people simply spamming dozens of names. This expires after two months.
Good thing I am not part of the government.
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« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2008, 06:34:54 pm »

Looks to me from here that the government can opt out of interfering with cases that don't fit with 13.
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« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2008, 06:36:52 pm »

Well, if the above constitution paragraph is true, then my raid on Whittler was invalid, and such is this Raid on me.
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« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2008, 07:01:43 pm »

What you don't seem to get is that the Government is NEVER EVER required to interfere with a raid. So even if you were the nicest person in the world, and evil clatra was pressuring you for money and raiding you for the sheer fun of it, we still wouldn't HAVE to interfere.
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« Reply #11 on: May 10, 2008, 07:04:33 pm »

Ok, that just shows how biased our government is. Someone is raiding someone else unannounced, yet nothing happens.
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« Reply #12 on: May 10, 2008, 07:26:43 pm »

If you think people are out to get you, then you are either paranoid or they are out to get you.

If it is the latter, it is time for you to realize that your behavior has consequences. There is always someone smarter than you. There is always someone stronger than you. There is always someone with more allies than you. There is always someone who plays more TW than you. You cannot be an asshat to lots of folks then expect that empty apologies will wipe your slate clean. If you believe otherwise, if you expect everyone else to conform to your interpretation of how TW should be played, it will be the most frustrating game you ever play.

If you care about getting off my shitlist, you will leave C7 and A4 -- you are no longer welcome in either continent. But I am just one player so I cannot promise that doing these things will ingratiate you with others.
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« Reply #13 on: May 10, 2008, 07:31:35 pm »

Ok, that just shows how biased our government is. Someone is raiding someone else unannounced, yet nothing happens.

We have meticulously explained to you how it works: you announced a raid, that means you are open to counter attacks. The end. I don't see any bias going on, although I do enjoy seeing you squeam and try to make up lies about the Constitution trying to get out of the hole you dug for yourself.
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« Reply #14 on: May 10, 2008, 10:06:52 pm »

Is a country obligated to go to war when another country does something they don't like? And is that bias?
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« Reply #15 on: May 11, 2008, 01:35:05 am »

You cannot be an asshat to lots of folks then expect that empty apologies will wipe your slate clean.

Wipe your statue clean is a better phrase.
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« Reply #16 on: May 11, 2008, 02:00:52 am »

are we talking about england
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